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Urs Broderick Furrer's avatar

You’re exactly right, John. Add to that a minimum of a five year waiting period for any public benefits and future immigrants would once again be beneficial to America.

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Kristofer's avatar

actually better idea. Just completely ban foreigners from taking public benefits. That way everyone wins. The poor can come to America and get jobs while American taxpayers are free of the burden. That's a win-win for everyone.

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Ice Age's avatar

And stop posting signs in Spanish. Don't make it easy for them to live in the shadows.

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Kristofer's avatar

that sounds like common sense to me.

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Urs Broderick Furrer's avatar

I’m 100% for that, just doubtful we could get the votes for 5 year ban, let alone forever. And don’t get me started on what the ACLU and the leftist judges would do with a complete ban. But I would certainly support that.

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Maria Dyson's avatar

An idea that's past time for implementing . . .

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Jerry Myers's avatar

This may sound harsh; my idea is we should not take refugees from war torn countries, especially those experiencing a Civil War.

The founding of America was a unique event. It was a revolution by the intellectuals of their time, not by the lower classes like so many revolutions.

Secondly, our Founders could have easily left the colonies and moved to some other place more to their liking. They did not leave, they stayed and fought for their ideals.

The citizens of a county have a responsibility to their country. If their country is ruled by a repressive regime they need to work to replace it. In a war, their really are not civilians. Every person in the war zone is a target. Every person needs to do their part to bring the war to a conclusion, whatever that might be. By accepting refugees from a war zone, we are mostly taking in those who are unable to make their own way and they become a burden on the taxpayer. We end up supporting those that are most likely too never adopt our customs and who want e a government like they have at home.

A refugees can be give a safe place to wait out the war, but when it is over, they need to go back.

I am frustrated that the majority of the world has strict rules on who can enter their country but we are expected to take everyone that wants in.

Years ago, my mother married a Canadian. That entitled her to move to Canada temporarily. She did not have the right to work or the right to government benefits. Her husband had to agree to cover all of her expenses.

Now, my mother was a highly trained RN. Canada has a severe shortage of nurses. So my mother applied for a work permit. It was granted because there was a need for nurses. The hospital that she worked for had to buy private insurance for her, she was not automatically enrolled in the Canadian Health care system. After two years, she could apply for landed emigrant status, and if approved, she would have all the rights of a Canadian citizen. Even when she reached the mandatory retirement age, they continued to let her work due to the shortage of nurses. She did have to reapply every year.

My mother was not fond of the Canadian Health Care system. She lived an hour's drive from Buffalo and maintained an US health insurance policy so she could get care in the US. She negotiated with the hospital she worked at to continue the private insurance policy at no cost to her. For little things, she sought care in Canada. For the major things, she went to Buffalo. The US system is about 5 to 10 years ahead of the Canadian system. She told me many times that the Canadians were using treatments that were being used in US hospitals when she was working 10 years prior in the US.

We hear all the gnashing of teeth when our government attempts to deport those that are not here legally. But there is silence over Canada regularly deporting those that are in Canada illegally.

Just my 2 cents.

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Ice Age's avatar

Why is it OUR job to take in the world's refugees? Because we made it work with a bunch of German rocket scientists once upon a time?

I don't think The State has a real long list of things it's legitimately supposed to do but maintaining the integrity of our borders and kicking trespassers out is absolutely one of those things.

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Jerry Myers's avatar

I recently read a book, "Operation Paperclip" written by Annie Jacobsen. We did not actually let a bunch of German Rocket Scientists into the US. The US State Department only approved of a few. They had to meet certain criteria and not have been staunch Nazi's.

The problem for the military was the majority of German scientists were true Nazi believers and had a very high rank in the party. The US military was trying to beat the Soviet Union in the Cold War arms race. The Soviets were taking as many of the German Scientists that they could get their hands on. Most were easily recruited because, as long as the produced, they would be paid well and given the best testing facilities. The downside was, if you did not produce as expected you could end up in Siberia. Some were just returned to Germany. It turns out some of those returned to Germany were bait for the US to snatch up. They were Soviet plants paid well to spy for the Soviets.

The other problem the US Military had was many of these scientists were facing trials for War Crimes. The State Department did not want anyone facing a trial for War Crimes to come anywhere close to US soil. Truman had vowed that no Nazi would ever enter the US.

At first, the military just flew a few to military bases where they were confined. They would be paid but the money would be deposited into German Bank accounts that their families could use. When they were done, they would be sent back to Germany.

The news media caught a few of these and it became a huge scandal. Those outed were immediately returned to Germany. Some defected to the Soviets, and some were convinced to work for the US in secret labs in Germany. They could have no contact with friends and family while working for the US.

As for taking in refugees, I do think that thy oe only ones we are morally obliged to take in are those that worked for us in a war zone, especially if the government we were supporting toppled. These people will mostly likely be executed just because they worked for us.

I also believe that this is another good reason to not get involved in the civil wars of other nations. We are unwilling to commit to total war. When the American Public gets tired of the extended war and US soldiers returning in body bags, we will pull out. It would have been better had we not become directly involved in the conflict. If it is a civil war, it is mostly likely best to not get involved.

We have not learned this lesson. After South VietNam collapsed, we tried to bring as many of those that worked with us to the US. It was a disaster. A few groups are still so resistant to change that they refuse to integrate into US society and are dependent on government aid. A number established criminal gangs here that are still a major burden on our society.

More recently, we have a flood of refugees from Pakistan and Afghanistan. They refuse to integrate and follow the tenets of Islam. They are to kill the infidels if they refuse to convert. They want the US and Europe to become Muslim countries where Islam dictates all aspects of our lives.

The biggest mistake many people make is to believe that everyone thinks like we do. It is hard for many to accept that there are some people who are h***bent on destroying our way of life.

I work at a high school with a significant number of students from Muslim countries or born to parents that were from a muslim country. I had one student a few years ago rape a young lady. He was appalled that he was arrested. He had just married her for a day so he could have sex with her and then afterwards he divorced her. Of course, since she was female, she had no say because females are here to serve men and be used by them in any way they see fit.

What was worse, an investigation found that this student was actually 24. His family lied about his age because minors were subjected to far less scrutiny when the US was doing background checks on the people they were allowing into the US.

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Ice Age's avatar

Muslims have no place in America. Their values are incompatible with civilized life.

See, Islam isn't actually a religion. It's an international criminal conspiracy that's been menacing the entire world for 15 centuries.

Islam began as a horde of bandits, rapists and muderers. Nothing's changed.

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Ice Age's avatar

How about none at all?

Look, we have enough people here already and far too many of those people, while technically United States citizens, aren't truly Americans.

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WheelHorseman's avatar

I think leftists are so corrupt and opinionated that they reject the concept that native born Americans have the right to be here either. If you start with the notion that Europeans invaded this continent and stole it from its rightful owners, then f'em; they get what they deserve, right? And since we've been told that American exceptionalism is just rebranded white supremacy and everything we have was built by African slaves, we need to pay up. Christianity is bigoted, so let it be drowned by hordes of fast breeding Islamics. You know you're dealing with thoughtless people when they can't or won't distinguish between legal and illegal immigration, and let's face facts, that's where many millions- almost a majority(?) of Americans are, it's sad to say. When your brain is so switched off that you've made a bumper sticker slogan like "Diversity is strength" into your parties immigration platform, you know we have deep seated problems with education and critical thinking. Thanks for writing this column, John.

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Kristofer's avatar

One more thing; maybe actually write an article about why you don't seem to care for helping world's poor. I am all ears. But please write an article and explain how "that does that not make you an extremist". In my eyes, as human beings we all have a responsibility to care for one another. Also, remember most immigrants from Latin America are CHRISTIAN.

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John Hawkins's avatar

Americans owe each other a lot. Americans owe the rest of the world nothing except general wishes of good will. We certainly don’t owe them our country. Show me all the people in Latin America fretting about America’s success. You won’t find them because they don’t care about us, they care about themselves and their own country. There’s nothing wrong with that by the way. That’s how it’s supposed to be.

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Kristofer's avatar

Then we will have to disagree. Maybe that's just my philosphy but in general, I believe "with great power comes great responsiblity" As the most powerful nation on earth, it does make America PARTIALLy responsible for the rest of the world. I believe responsibilty of the successful is to help those who are not. With respect it's like caring more about your parents then kids of a random stranger John (since from what I am aware, you don't have any kids of your own, do you?).

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John Hawkins's avatar

"As the most powerful nation on earth, it does make America PARTIALLy responsible for the rest of the world." That sounds nice. The flip side of it is that we've already probably done 50 times more for the rest of the world than any other country. How many wars has Trump already stopped? Yet we're 38 trillion dollars in debt.

At this point, we need to spend ten times less worrying about other nations and ten times more worrying about our own country. That doesn't mean we can't ever help anybody else, but our first, 2nd and 3rd priorities need to be doing what's best for America for a change.

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Kristofer's avatar

That's a GREAT POINT actually.

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Kristofer's avatar

With respect but this sounds ways too harsh. It's too UNFAIR to world's poor. No. Rich people do not need to come to America. Poor should be a priority. You realize John it's our responsibility to help world's poor, right? Remember "With Great Power, comes great responsibility." America is the richest and most powerful nation on Earth so that be default makes America PARTIALLY responsible to help everyone else. Don't get the wrong idea. I oppose mass Muslim immigration. But the idea we should only let doctors, engineers, extemly wealthy... sorry but this is CLASSISM that should be illegal. Empathy and compassion MUST play a role in America immigration system. Again, I agree with mass deportation of illegals, but we need to make legal immigration process much easier so that more poor people could come and improve their lives. As for welfare... well simple solutiuon. Make illegal for them to use any public benefits. But they should have right to come and have a chance. We don't owe them handouts. But we do OWE them chance. And the rich shouldn't be treated as more beneficial then the poor. Though, I do love the idea of attractive women. Must manual laborers shouldn't be a problem. Considering how hard they work, I think they deserve it FAR MORE then business owners or extremely wealthy whose only plus is having lots of money. Especially that manual laborer by the age of 50, can have so much money that he won't need any help. Call me crazy but I do believe that manual laborers should be paid just as much as engineers and business owners. They often do the work that plenty of wealthy people woulnd't be capable of.

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