Are There People Who Deserve to be Oppressed?
I will be the first to tell you that it seems a little weird that a streamer who spends an inordinate amount of time gaming, like Asmongold, is one of the most interesting conservative thinkers today. Is that because he’s unusually gifted at cutting to the nub of certain issues? Maybe.
It could also be because conservative “intellectuals” seem to have dropped off in quality after people like Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, and David Horowitz left the scene, while many other prominent influencers on the Right have become so focused on chasing traffic that they just don’t bother with much harder to monetize original thoughts. Whatever the case may be, Asmongold has a gift for describing issues in a way most other conservatives don’t.
For example, have you ever considered that some people may DESERVE to be oppressed? At first glance, that seems outrageous, but it actually makes a lot of sense as you listen to Asmongold explain it.
For example, any time someone gets shot by the police, (liberals) automatically take the side of the person that gets shot. Any time something bad happens to the US, they take the side that’s not the US because the US is seen as the oppressor. So, the entire ideology is built around this dichotomy of oppressor and oppressed. And they systematically always take the side of the oppressed.
But, the problem is that there’s a lot of people that are oppressed for good reason. There are a lot of good reasons to oppress people. And I think Iran is a perfect example of that. But, the problem is that the ideology is crafted in a way to explicitly subvert that, to explicitly misunderstand that, and to take advantage of that blind spot.
Because it is a good thing to try to look out for people that have less than you. It is a good thing to try to help the downtrodden and the oppressed. But, the reality is that you also have to look at, ‘why are people oppressed?’ And in some cases, there’s a good reason why they’re oppressed and you should probably oppress them even more.
They deserve it. I think Iran is a good example. Same with criminals, stuff like that. Shoplifters. The entire ideology they have is built off of that completely one-dimensional dichotomy that is applied to everything bigger and smaller. Whether it’s power dynamics in relationships because of age gaps or geopolitical struggles between Iran and the United States, the same ideology is being applied in the exact same way. And that’s the way they make every decision.
Normally, people see the word “oppressor” as inherently negative and make the assumption that someone who is “oppressed” doesn’t deserve it.
However, Asmongold is correct that the Left uses these terms as little more than a description of a power dynamic. (Well, for anyone other than themselves. No matter how abusive liberals in power may be – and they’re frequently EXTREMELY abusive – they never seem to believe it’s possible for them to oppress people who disagree with them.)
One of the core problems with liberals (and too many other people in our society) is that they don’t have any standards of behavior. For them, there are very few, if any, things where the same rules should be applied to white and black people, Jews and Muslims, Americans and immigrants, conservatives and liberals, straights and gays, etc., etc.
Because of this, liberals tend to abandon right and wrong and judge things on, “Which of the two conflicting parties is considered more oppressive or most oppressed by liberals right now, compared to the other?”
So, for example, with liberals, if there’s a conflict between a…
…cop and a criminal, the criminal is right.
…black woman and a white woman, the black woman is right.
…white woman and a trans woman, the trans woman is right.
…Israel and the Palestinians, the Palestinians are right.
…black conservatives and a white liberal man, the white liberal man is right.
…straight man and a gay man, the gay man is right.
…Muslim and a Christian, the Muslim is right.
…American citizens and illegal aliens, the illegal alien is right.
…business owner and bums squatting outside their business, the bums are right.
The problem with this kind of thinking is that it’s completely divorced from any sort of standards, logic, or sense of right and wrong. It also makes any sort of rational debate or discussion impossible. You can try to explain why Kyle Rittenhouse was right to shoot the rioters that attacked him, Daniel Penny was right to defend the people on his subway car from a deranged homeless man threatening violence, why an ICE agent made the right call to shoot Renee Good when she tried to run over him, why the US is right to hit Iran, or Israel was right to hammer the Palestinians and a normal person might agree or disagree with your arguments. Fair enough, right? However, liberals can’t even mentally process what you are saying in a meaningful way because they start with a pre-ordained conclusion based on where both sides fall in their hierarchy of oppressors and the oppressed that forces them to take a particular position before a debate even begins and work backward from there.
In those situations, no matter what, Kyle Rittenhouse, Daniel Penny, the ICE agents, the US, and Israel are ALWAYS going to be wrong to liberals, and the side more favored by liberals is always going to be right.
Along similar lines, they believe that a white man can get an ID, but you can’t expect a black person or a liberal woman to do the same. Rioting is a “voice of the unheard” when liberals do it, but when conservatives do the same thing, it is an “insurrection.” People should be able to shoplift whatever they want from stores because they need it, but if those stores shut their doors and leave because of the theft, it’s racism or corporate greed or something.
Unfortunately, societies cannot properly function based on fuzzy, ever-shifting opinions about which group is supposed to be more oppressed. That goes double since we don’t even agree about who’s “oppressed,” if anyone is “oppressed” at all.
My general opinion is that if you live in the United States and think you’re meaningfully “oppressed,” you’re full of sh*t. Furthermore, if we just want to categorize who’s “oppressed” as who’s treated more unfairly, I’d say…
…men have it worse than women.
…Christians have it worse than non-Christians.
…conservatives have it worse than liberals.
…whites, Asians, and Jews have it worse than everyone else.
…the cops are treated more unfairly than criminals.
In the end, it still doesn’t matter very much if I think that, because I still believe conflicts need to be decided by standards of behavior.
So, just knowing a Christian is in a dispute with an atheist, a Jew is in a dispute with a Muslim, or a white man is in a dispute with a black man doesn’t tell us anything about who’s right and wrong because we need to judge each situation individually.
That being said, some people and even some groups of people behave horribly and deserve to face consequences for that. For that reason, I don’t have a lot of sympathy for the chronically homeless who want to live on the sidewalk and get high all day. My heart does not bleed for Palestinians who chose to be led by a genocidal terrorist group, cheered 9/11 in the streets, and were thrilled that they raped and murdered large numbers of Israeli civilians. The loonies that run Iran have been pursuing nukes, sponsoring terrorism, trying to assassinate Trump, and regularly chanting “Death to America,” so I’m just fine with them getting bombed. I don’t think criminals who get arrested over and over deserve to walk free. I don’t feel bad for people who want to live off welfare, after they’re told they have to start working for their money. It’s hard to weep over some moron who gets shot attacking a cop or a man who chooses to dress like a woman who’s upset over being told he can’t use the ladies’ room.
The truth is that there are a lot of bad, reckless, immoral, evil and foolish people in the world who are happy to play the victim to avoid being held responsible for their actions. What liberals like to call “oppression” is often just what the rest of us see as them finally being held responsible for what they’ve done.
Hear, hear, John. This whole oppressor/oppressed thing is both a lazy shortcut to avoid actual fact gathering and rational thinking, and it's also the playbook of Marxism. Steven Crowder makes this point all the time when he links liberal "thought" with Marxist dialectic. The whole rich equals powerful oppressor and poor equals oppressed victim is what will lead a once successful nation to crumble by abandoning values of hard work, effort, and smart thinking, and instead fighting to take from one group (the rich) and give to the other (the poor). It's really an asinine way to look at the world, and an incredibly lazy one: let someone else do the hard work, I'll just swoop in and take it away from them. That's why the idea that Christians should want to be socialists is so brain dead- God doesn't give us permission to steal from anybody. He may choose to reward you for your charity, but He will not reward you for theft. Leftists are always, always, always on the wrong side of morality and common sense; even when at first glance it might look otherwise.
"So, for example, with liberals, if there’s a conflict between a…
…cop and a criminal, the criminal is right.
…black woman and a white woman, the black woman is right.
…white woman and a trans woman, the trans woman is right.
…Israel and the Palestinians, the Palestinians are right.
…black conservatives and a white liberal man, the white liberal man is right.
…straight man and a gay man, the gay man is right.
…Muslim and a Christian, the Muslim is right.
…American citizens and illegal aliens, the illegal alien is right.
…business owner and bums squatting outside their business, the bums are right"
This is the stupid credentialed victim identity rock-paper-scissors game that liberals play. Watch them squirm when there is a conflict between two people owning several difference qualified victim credentials trying to decide which should prevail. Everyone has to be categorized in clean line-up of good person to bad person based on identity (behavior does not matter). A liberal atheist antisemite black Palestinian Muslim trans lesbian female illegal immigrant with a criminal record should be at the top of the list.