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Well, here’s what I believe.

I’m not a conservative, but I believe a lot of things that overlap with conservatism. Certain things have always been true about human beings, are still true, and will always be true, till the Second Coming. Here are a few of them.

I believe that deep down, talkin’ genetically hard-coded here, every man wants to be Genghis Khan and every woman wants to be Genghis Khan’s favorite concubine.

I believe that it will be left to America’s successor nation to have an honest conversation about race in America. We’re too close to it and it’s a raw, bleeding wound for us anyway.

I believe that society is an illusion and the best we can hope for is that we don’t slaughter each other en masse over something TRIVIAL.

I believe that the malapropism "The price of liberty is eternal vigilantism" is closer to the truth than many of us are comfortable with.

I believe that hatred and anger are more respectable emotions than sadness and despair, because they provide the energy necessary to fix the problem. Or at least to not let it get away scot-free.

I believe that if the automobile had predated John Locke, driving might be a civil right today.

I believe that national economies are superior to globalism, which enriches those at the very top and impoverishes everyone else.

I believe that if the old ways don’t work, or don’t work anymore, fuck ‘em.

I believe that conservatives are fools for wading into the no-holds-barred bloodsport of politics with visions of civility and the moral high ground dancing in their heads, because Marquess of Queensbury rules don’t work on an opponent determined to win using MMA.

I believe that having a fiduciary duty to your stockholders doesn’t give you the right to send 30,000 of your countrymen's jobs to India & China, nuking the economies of a dozen counties in three states in the process.

I believe that protesting and advocacy are not honorable occupations.

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Agree. Yes, you are conservative. So am I. Being conservative means being a libertarian. My tilt is libertarian paternalism. I think that is exactly what the founders meant to leave us all with. What we have done instead is drifted to collectivist matriarchism. I also do not hate liberals, but we cannot talk to them. We cannot negotiate with them. They are not people that we can every have a good faith relationship with. We can only tolerate them while we keep making sure, they never rise up to positions of power and influence.

Frankly, I see liberal vs conservative and to some degree Democrat vs Republican as a great personality-type filtering where the left is more individual dysfunctional and thus more in need of care services and the right has a great inventory of personality traits that enable their greater self-sufficiency and self-determination. I think is as simple as that.

For example, with the Meyer Briggs Type Indicator - a common personality categorization tool,

https://www.myersbriggs.org/my-mbti-personality-type/the-16-mbti-personality-types/

Intuition (N) vs. Sensing (S): The strongest predictor. Intuitive types are nearly four times more likely to be Democrats (79%) than Republicans (21%). They focus on abstract, progressive ideas, whereas Sensing types focus on facts and traditional, established methods.

Thinking (T) vs. Feeling (F): Thinking types may align with conservative fiscal policies, while Feeling types often align with liberal social policies focusing on harmony and fairness.

Judging (J) vs. Perceiving (P): High conscientiousness (linked to Judging) is associated with a preference for order and, consequently, conservative values.

Females: ISFJ is often cited as the most common female type, followed by other types with a strong "Feeling" component, such as ESFJ and ENFP.

Males: ISTJ and ESTJ are frequently reported as common, with a higher prevalence of Thinking (T) types overall.

I think the old Democrat vs Republican was more labor vs business and crossed personality type lines. But over time, especially as females advanced to dominate socio economic positions and females tend to fit into the personality type that more often identifies as liberal or Democrat.

We are actually from Mars and Venus. We will never see eye to eye. We will never connect with the same values because liberals rely on feelings, intuition and perception (even though they claim all the expert basis for their views, they are experts that have their same malady) and that isn't something that conservatives can ever accept.

Haidt pointed out that conservatives have a broad moral diet to work with, while liberals fixate exclusively on care/harm. Liberals are also more apt to participate in egoism... and thus the primary care and harm filter, despite their virtue signaling about victims' groups, is for themselves.

Liberals are just more selfish and greedier and are prone to emotional dysregulation. I don't hate them; I just want them to get the hell out of the way of real progress and get some cognitive behavior therapy.

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