The Rome analogy is near exact. The only difference, is they didn’t have history to learn from. We do.
You ask, “What if Democrats don’t care about what’s good for the country?”
It is becoming increasingly clear to me that the real question is “what do we do since it’s obvious that so many democrats elected at a national level, and some elected republicans, appear to hate our country?”
I agree with your comment, and it may lead to some previously unthinkable things. When whole segments, or parties, become defacto enemies of the United States, coupled with the reality that the rule of law is increasingly unhelpful- see the SCOTUS decision on birthright citizenship- we are very close to insurrection, and not the Demoncat fantasy kind. What will be the triggering event? Reparations from every white person to every non-white person? Demonrats packing the court (although with morons like Roberts and Coney Barrett already there that seems less likely)? Elimination of the Electoral college? Massive gun confiscation attempt? How about Kamala Harris winning and overtly opening the borders? Democrats are so reckless they could try any of these, being too arrogant to understand the consequences.
You are certainly right and it could be any of those things or even something that we can’t imagine. Unfortunately, most Americans pay little attention to politics. Look at the communists that won last week in NYC. They all ran as “democratic socialists” and look and sound “progressive” but not dangerous. Yet all of them are on record supporting communism but they scrubbed their social media and blamed it on “youthful indiscretions” or some crap like that.
Thus, the danger continues and will get worse and worse as the left’s long term plan, to capture the minds of the young, is nearly complete. At least a generation or two has been raised to believe in socialism and they are everywhere around us.
As Marcus Tullius Cicero said,
“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.”
I don't think the US as a current whole, will survive the third world immigration of the last 50 years. But I do think we'll see individual states that will start to regulate immigration within their own borders, and survive like independent republics. What I mean, is that in the coming generations, America will return to an original 13 colonies model. There will be states like California, that will fully transform into Brazil. And there will be other, conservative states that will mostly conserve their traditional racial demographics. Because conservative states will find & create state-level ways to defend themselves against illegal immigration. The US will look less like 2026, and more like 1776. I think this is the only way a tenuous, balkanizing Union can be held together in the future?
I agree wholeheartedly with your analysis, but it goes beyond just low trust individuals being turned loose in a high trust society. The question is whether Islam is compatible, antagonistic, or capable of co-existence with Western Enlightenment Values. An honest answer is not compatible, but capable of co-existence. I've explored that subject in 2 substack essays and am continuing the discussion in a yet to be published 3rd.
I don’t think that’s exactly what happened to Rome. For the first several centuries, military service was restricted to and required of Roman male citizens. Rome got to the point it was fighting more and further away, and the farmer citizens were going broke because they weren’t home to do any farming. The political class was fine with this because they gobbled up the farms for a pittance.
Then the Romans turned to non-citizens for military eligibility and dangled the citizenship as a reward. In the not too distant future, the legions were stuffed with Celts and Franks and
others of that ilk, but the empire still held together (ostensibly) another 700 years or thereabouts.
Be sure to check out Dick’s series on Islam, and be amazed at the ignorance of our past leadership.
The Rome analogy is near exact. The only difference, is they didn’t have history to learn from. We do.
You ask, “What if Democrats don’t care about what’s good for the country?”
It is becoming increasingly clear to me that the real question is “what do we do since it’s obvious that so many democrats elected at a national level, and some elected republicans, appear to hate our country?”
I agree with your comment, and it may lead to some previously unthinkable things. When whole segments, or parties, become defacto enemies of the United States, coupled with the reality that the rule of law is increasingly unhelpful- see the SCOTUS decision on birthright citizenship- we are very close to insurrection, and not the Demoncat fantasy kind. What will be the triggering event? Reparations from every white person to every non-white person? Demonrats packing the court (although with morons like Roberts and Coney Barrett already there that seems less likely)? Elimination of the Electoral college? Massive gun confiscation attempt? How about Kamala Harris winning and overtly opening the borders? Democrats are so reckless they could try any of these, being too arrogant to understand the consequences.
You are certainly right and it could be any of those things or even something that we can’t imagine. Unfortunately, most Americans pay little attention to politics. Look at the communists that won last week in NYC. They all ran as “democratic socialists” and look and sound “progressive” but not dangerous. Yet all of them are on record supporting communism but they scrubbed their social media and blamed it on “youthful indiscretions” or some crap like that.
Thus, the danger continues and will get worse and worse as the left’s long term plan, to capture the minds of the young, is nearly complete. At least a generation or two has been raised to believe in socialism and they are everywhere around us.
As Marcus Tullius Cicero said,
“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.”
I don't think the US as a current whole, will survive the third world immigration of the last 50 years. But I do think we'll see individual states that will start to regulate immigration within their own borders, and survive like independent republics. What I mean, is that in the coming generations, America will return to an original 13 colonies model. There will be states like California, that will fully transform into Brazil. And there will be other, conservative states that will mostly conserve their traditional racial demographics. Because conservative states will find & create state-level ways to defend themselves against illegal immigration. The US will look less like 2026, and more like 1776. I think this is the only way a tenuous, balkanizing Union can be held together in the future?
I agree wholeheartedly with your analysis, but it goes beyond just low trust individuals being turned loose in a high trust society. The question is whether Islam is compatible, antagonistic, or capable of co-existence with Western Enlightenment Values. An honest answer is not compatible, but capable of co-existence. I've explored that subject in 2 substack essays and am continuing the discussion in a yet to be published 3rd.
https://removingthecataract.substack.com/p/the-enlightenment-and-islam-part
Dick Minnis
I don’t think that’s exactly what happened to Rome. For the first several centuries, military service was restricted to and required of Roman male citizens. Rome got to the point it was fighting more and further away, and the farmer citizens were going broke because they weren’t home to do any farming. The political class was fine with this because they gobbled up the farms for a pittance.
Then the Romans turned to non-citizens for military eligibility and dangled the citizenship as a reward. In the not too distant future, the legions were stuffed with Celts and Franks and
others of that ilk, but the empire still held together (ostensibly) another 700 years or thereabouts.
Be sure to check out Dick’s series on Islam, and be amazed at the ignorance of our past leadership.